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Date: September 9th, 2009
Name: Bryon Thornton
Subject: WTF
Comment: You're reporting and trying to cover-up the fact that Jones is and always will be a racist is lackluster at best. What if I said Blacks are trying to poison the white mans water? It is not aboiut Glen Beck but about Jones hateful words and the fact that no one was reporting on it. Jones is a Big Black Racist of the worst kind.
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Date: September 9th, 2009
Name: Josh Silver
Subject: President Should Have Backed Van Jones
Comment: I can't believe what I'm watching.
Fox News Channel headliner Glenn Beck has turned his nightly program
into a megaphone of misinformation. He just took down presidential
adviser Van Jones, one of our most visionary and principled young
leaders.
What happened to Jones is outrageous. President Obama should have
ignored the media's smear campaign and rejected all calls for Jones'
ouster.
This madness is a failure not only of the media, but of our president
to stand up against modern-day McCarthyism:
http://free.convio.net/site/R?i=OPy-ldn7aAVcoYf2_aXH0w..
Tell President Obama: 'Glenn Beck Doesn't Speak for Me'
Emboldened by their success, Glenn Beck and other right-wing blowhards
have begun media witch hunts against people in all aspects of public
life. If we don't speak out now, the champions of the issues you care
about will be run out of Washington.
Surveys show that most Americans want health care reform, good schools
and clean air. But if you watch Glenn Beck's show, you would think the
opposite is true: that the only proponents of these ideas are
dangerous, anti-American radicals operating out of the White House
basement.
I'm urging you to take a stand with me and sign this open letter to
the president. Glenn Beck's fear-mongering is endemic to a media
system that cares more about ratings than about the truth. We need
President Obama to take a stand against such hysteria, which only
distracts us from the real issues at hand.
http://free.convio.net/site/R?i=qqP0b8RKR_yP2QuV18su9w..
http://free.convio.net/site/R?i=A1QUmCqbcv8-MyoYgXCRAw..
President Obama Must Stand with Us for More Diverse Media
Beck has a First Amendment right to stoke fear and prejudice -- and
we're not asking for him to be censored or silenced. But we all have a
responsibility to condemn his behavior and defend the public servants
and innocent people who are being attacked. This is not about
censorship... It's about sanity.
Mainstream media have failed. Too many of our leaders have stayed
quiet. We must speak out now.
Thank you,
Josh Silver
Free Press
www.freepress.net
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Date: September 9th, 2009
Name: Scott
Subject: Ya pissed them off....
Comment: When you have videos spread over the 'net showing your comments, it's hard to deny the truth. Obama's staff should have never vetted him. He should have known that a lot in his past would be brought up.
Two things that this whole fiasco did: Brought Van Johnson into the spotlight. Brought the judgement of Obama and staff into question with unaffiliated voters. The mid-term elections could be a blood bath for numerous things, but this just added fuel to the fire. Mr. Charlie doesn't like
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Date: September 9th, 2009
Name: Mister Newsflash
Subject: COWARD.
Comment: I see that you deleted my words that you had no ANSWER for. You are on CRACK if you think Obama is trying to pull away from Socialism after Bush stupidly allowed that sinfully ignorant stimulus nightmare to happen. Tragic.
Of course, I'm sure I only think that because I'm a racist and/or a bigot right? All this bull$___ massah commentary exposes you to be equally balanced with a chip on BOTH shoulders. Weak men like you will not win the day . . . and make no mistake, YOU ARE WEAK.
Editor's Note: Thank you powerful Terminator
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Date: September 9th, 2009
Name: chris chandler
Subject: Take responsibility
Comment: It's not ALWAYS somebody else's fault. It's not ALWAYS racist tinged when a black man/woman fails. Sometimes, the person simply screwed up. It happens to ALL races.
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Date: September 9th, 2009
Name: Vicki Nikolaidis
Subject: Conundrum created in our democracy
Comment: Dear fellow mates blogging here,
My intimate experience with raging bullies is that the more outrageous their statements the faster you best agree and get to a safe place.
So in lies the conundrum of fear fevered bullies sputtering out vitriol which follows no reason.
Free speech is necessary in a democracy but believing ill reasoned fantasies has led to massacres in Nazi Germany, Rwanda and Yugoslavia.
Do you want the same situation in your country or do
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Date: September 8th, 2009
Name: By Richard Brimson
Subject: We Are The Silent (No More) Majority
Comment: I'm sure you consider yourself an intelligent, unbiased, clear-thinking person, but how can you possibly be with statements like the following?
"They will oppose the president on everything he does; not out of principle or the national interest, but simply because they hate the fact that the base for their narrow partisan views continue to shrink."
Do you follow polls, viewership statistics, etc, at all? Both Limbaugh's and Beck's audience have grown, Beck's rather remarkably. Fox News has exploded in viewership. Recent polls have shown that conservatives are in the majority in all 50 States. In the generic Congressional ballot, Republicans have overtaken Democrats as the more trusted. Obama's polls have plummeted, including large losses in independents and even a growing
trend amongst Democrats. So, ipso facto, there is no shrinking base, invalidating your entire premise.
It is always amusing to read a liberal announce what a conservative is thinking. So, you, the liberal, knows the conservative/libertarian
broadcasters are not acting out of principle or the national interest? Sir, you could not be more wrong. Those two things are 100% what is driving their activities and what is motivating their growing audiences and the concerned citizens you have been seeing in town hall meetings. Maybe they hate having a growing base?
Hate-broadcast terrorism? Give me a break. Van Jones hung himself. All Beck, Limbaugh, and the conservative blogosphere did was show videos of Jones spewing vile un-American crap, right out of his own mouth and his own warped mind.
The man was a radical, and a hater. His animosity towards
whites was obvious, and such racism is disgusting and reprehensible. Obama was supposed to usher in a post-racial society. That doesn't work very well when he brings a racist like Jones into the White House.
And then this: "Several major corporate advertisers withdrew their ads from Glenn Beck's show; in retaliation, he went after Van Jones." I can only conclude that you do no research at all before writing, as this statement is just plain ignorant. Beck was broadcasting pieces on Jones BEFORE Jones started the boycott. So, if anything, Jones went after Beck in retaliation.
This whole Jones debacle will likely hurt Obama too, because it is very probable that most of the good people of the US will conclude that Obama chose Jones BECAUSE of his radicalism, not in spite of it.
I think you need to give serious thought that it is you who hates the fact that the base for your narrow partisan views continue to shrink. There is a populous movement arising in this country (which is the only good thing that has arisen so far from the Obama presidency). This populous movement is make up of the group previously known as the Silent Majority. Well, they
are silent no more. For too many years they allowed themselves to be cowed by the demonization and ad hominem attacks that are the stock in trade of liberals. You and your ilk have for far, far too long gotten away with wrongly tagging us as racists, rubes, flat-earthers, xenophobes, homophobes, anti-woman, etc, etc, etc.
No more my friend. We are mad as hell and we're
not going to take it anymore. We are none of those things. So we will now call out an actual hater, and radical, like Van Jones, and the mainstream liberal media can no longer control it like they used to. The invectives in your editorial no longer bother us either. Get used to it.
I join you in praying that God protect America. But what I want it
protected from are those things that He has made clear are wrong (i.e. sins), most notably the murdering of unborn babies and the celebrating the sin of homosexuality. My feelings about those things are irrelevant, and so are yours. God has made his feelings very clear and His is the only opinion that matters. I have nothing against homosexuals, as we all battle one sin or another, but when they demand their sin be celebrated and given Government-sanctioned rights, then they have gone sadly awry.
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Date: September 8th, 2009
Name: Robert Greenwald
Subject: Time To Defend Van Jones
Comment: Dear Milton,
This weekend, an environmental justice hero resigned from the White House. Van Jones
was the victim of a vicious smear campaign led by FOX News hatemonger Glenn Beck.
Van's career as a voice for the poor is legendary, which is why Beck sought to
destroy his career in the Obama administration.
To see who the real Van Jones is, watch this video from our series "This Brave Nation"
1. Watch the video: http://bravenation.com/carl_pope_van_jones.php
2. Speak Up: http://www.facebook.com/pages/Im-Sick-of-Right-Wing-Smears/151276807391
We can never allow this to happen again. FOX will continue its witch hunt. We must
be prepared to speak out and fight back. We want to hear from you.
Join our Facebook page to help Brave New Foundation strategize how to resist the
rightwing smear machine.
Yours,
Robert Greenwald
and the Brave New Foundation team
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Date: September 8th, 2009
Name: Martin Daniels
Subject: You Can Fool ALL Republicans ALL the TIME
Comment: I don't understand all this. If all these posters are so confident that Communism is so loathful and doesn't stand a chance in hell of gaining ground in this country why all these paranoid postings!? Hmmmm. Could there be some secret fear that with the greedy CAPITALIST bankers on Wall Street will strike again? And perhaps next time it may actually spark a R-E-V-O-L-U-T-I-O-N? After all, these GOOD CA{PITALSIST are once again paying themselves $100 million while 7 million Americans are out of work (hmmmm; it's still the "socialist" fault right?). If I remember, it was this same "Socialist" president who rescued your Capitalist ass with his "Socialist" $787 million strimulus.
And who was that wise guy who said you can't fool all of the people all of the time? Hahahaha, He was clearly not referring to REPUBLICANS
Lead the "Socialist" president to the stakes while the Fat Cats with their $200 million bonuses laugh all the way to the bank; to your bank accounts!
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Date: September 8th, 2009
Name: Mike Miller
Subject: Sorry to bust your bubble, but....
Comment: After it became known Jones described himself as a Communist, he was dumped.
His Problem Of Color is not black skin but Red politics.
Americans don't like communists whether they are black or white.
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Date: September 8th, 2009
Name: MCS
Subject: Blacks Of The World Unite!
Comment: Van jones is racist cretin truther dingbat.
Consider revising your cheesy little racial solidarity article.
By the way, if you happen to encounter this loathesome little turd, ask him if he would support Mumia if the cop had been white...
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Date: September 8th, 2009
Name: starman
Subject: Hate broadcast on You Tube
Comment: There are enough videos of Jones in his own words on you tube to clearly demonstrate that this guy is a communist loon. So what's the problem Black Star? A Chicago commie exposes his true self in his own words and you need a scapegoat for the predictable response? America is not a socio-commie country despite Obama and degnokrats best efforts to makle us into one. Ohhhhh how that *evil* Glenn Beck dare to show America the true core of Van Jones.
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Date: September 8th, 2009
Name: Whoa
Subject: Education
Comment: No one will ever confuse you with an intellectual.
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Date: September 8th, 2009
Name: TheOtherMikeS
Subject: Jones a victim? LOL!
Comment: Jones is a respected expert on 'green' jobs and the environment? Really? What job has he ever created? Green or otherwise? Is he an expert because he mouths the liberal mantra of green is good? What has he ever DONE?
And what are you talking about him not having time to defend himself? Beck has been providing America with FACTS for weeks on end. He has even specifically sent requests to the White House to clarify issues.
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Date: September 8th, 2009
Name: michelle fuller
Subject: Where is the...
Comment: NAACP, Urban League, SCLC, et al to stand behind Van Jones? Did all these organization accept faith-based funds which essentially silenced them? Mr. Jones was one of the few good appointments Mr. Barack Hussein Obama Soetero made. Working age Black males/females need living wage jobs outside of prison too. Can't his African American mother-in-law slap him upside the head, or is she JUST HAPPY TO BE SLEEPING IN MASSA'S HOUSE?
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Date: September 8th, 2009
Name: Mister Newsflash
Subject: That Kool Aid you're pushing
Comment: It is absolutely ridiculous how hard you are trying to point the finger at the Republican party for not going along with your bigoted, socialist, anti-free market ideology when in truth, any free thinking individual that wants to simply be left alone to make his own way without being obstructed and PUNISHED by the government could come to the same conclusion; Government Run ANYTHING sucks.
Editor's Note: Ironically the failed Bush-Cheney regime took us to the doorsteps of socialism and Obama is trying to pull us back with the economic stimulus. But of course, you're too biased to accept that.
Look at UPS. Look at Fed Ex. They thrive because they do a great job at what they're designed to
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Date: September 8th, 2009
Name: Vicki Nikolaidis
Subject: Van Jones for President
Comment: p.s. I tried to give this article a 5 star but unfortunately it showed up as a 1 or 2.
A lot of people who have never heard of Van Jones now have an idea of who he is. When they find out he stands for good jobs for all, he'll be acquiring a reall and loyal following.
Van Jones interviews on www.BigThink.com are a good place to make sure you understand who you are demonizing. Wonder if some of the other commenting have any problem with the contradictions of Glenn Becks comments, even in
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Date: September 8th, 2009
Name: Vicki Nikoalidis
Subject: Van Jones witch hunt
Comment: I agree with you - the country is in trouble. When people leading a movement do not know the definitions of the words they are speaking you know trouble is ahead. And when they smear a person advocating for good jobs for their followers - be careful if the followers are carying guns. Ex. former yugoslavia - Milosevic got a hold of t.v. and stirred up the war with lies, citing ethnic tensions where there were none. p.s.
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Date: September 8th, 2009
Name: Dave Bennett
Subject: The Van Jones Witch hunt
Comment: I find it sad that President Obama allows himself to be so intimidated by right wing terrorists and lynch mobs.
He needs more advisers like Van Jones, and greater faith in the majority of Americans who voted to elect him.
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Date: September 8th, 2009
Name: GunRights4US
Subject: Van Jones' resignation
Comment: You state:
They will oppose the president on everything he does; not out of principle or the national interest, but simply because they hate the fact that the base for their narrow partisan views continue to shrink.
That is a baldfaced lie in every sense of the phrase. Rightwingers like me oppose the facist in the White House exclusively based on principal and because of the national interest! Go ahead and begin smearing me as a racist now, just because I dare speak against your column
Editor's Note: Your own words speak for you
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Date: September 8th, 2009
Name: DaleC
Subject: Give me a break
Comment: Columns like this one reduce credibility on issues which matter.
Van Jones has no place in government.
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Date: September 8th, 2009
Name: Woodsey Owl
Subject: Idiot
Comment: Beck played Jones EXACT WORDS. Jones hung himself and to write something like this make you as much of an idiot as Jones.
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Date: September 7th, 2009
Name: Ethel Mertz
Subject: wingnut rant in a nutshell
Comment: blah blah blah birth certificate blah blah socialist blah blah communist blah blah blah hitler blah blah yell scream rant throw die i want my country back wagh wagh wagh wagh oh my god the jig is up i can't cash in my millions of dollars of profit by walking on the heads of the middle class children anymore boo hoo hoo.
Editor's Note: Better get to the nearest hospital
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Date: September 7th, 2009
Name: Lori Price
Subject: 'Van Jones, Victim of Hate-broadcast Terrorism'
Comment: Linking your editorial to the CLG website and the summary will be in today's newsletter. And, as 9 million pounds of evidence indicates and as writers could reveal in the first 44 minutes of a script for an episode of 'NCIS:' 9/11 was an inside job.
Lori R. Price
Managing Editor
Citizens For Legitimate Government
http://www.legitgov.org/
http://www.legitgov.org/9_1_1_oddities.html
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Date: September 7th, 2009
Name: Gary W. Ballard
Subject: Glenn Beck Is Trying To Save America
Comment: You are wrong. Obama is trying to destroy America. Glenn Beck is only trying to save America. Get real.
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Date: September 7th, 2009
Name: By George Maranchik
Subject: Defending A Fellow Black Man?
Comment: Van Jones is an admitted communist and his unprofessionalism in the youtube video where he uses profanity are two good reasons on why he has no business being this involved with our government. Having known the history of communism, do you honestly think that we should have an admitted communist in our govt?
These "hate broasters" reported this information as did other avenues of reporting, but were they the only ones to report this information? Is it just that a Black man has been "targeted" and it has upset you? And if that is the case, are you being in favor of a man based on race??
Thanks in advance for any response.
Editor's Response: Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaugh don't give a hoot about this country. Limbaugh declared before the president even took office: "I hope he fails." Eventhough failure would have assured Depression and financial collapse. So we need to put these so-called "exposes" in their proper context
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Date: September 7th, 2009
Name: Steve Teagan
Subject: Obama Renounced His White Heritage
Comment: Sir.
You seem to think that Obama is immune to racism charges because of his white
heritage. Perhaps you forgot that Obama threw his white forebearers under the bus when he declared "I am a Black man". What are whites to think of a person who makes a conscious decision to deny half his makeup? How do you like hearing a 50-50 white/black person saying they are white only? Sir, that is the definition of racism.
Steve Teagan
Editor's Note: Actually, in this country one really doesn't have a choice and many 50/50 people will tell you. Whether they like it or not, they are regarded as and treated as "Black." Be my guest and ask around
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Date: September 7th, 2009
Name: Steve
Subject: Commie got the boot
Comment: The man admitted that he was against America and the best you can do is whine and play the victim card. If it was a Republican you would not be saying a word. Grow up.
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Date: September 7th, 2009
Name: largebill
Subject: http://keaneobservation.blogspot.com/
Comment: What a dishonest article. This character was not just protesting police brutality. He clearly had no place in any administration. If he went through the normal process he wouldn't pass muster for the lowest level security clearance and yet somehow he has access to the White House.
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Date: September 7th, 2009
Name: dan
Subject: police incident
Comment: Obama spoke about a police incident, in the first place he is president and should not become involved in small police incidents, lest he try to micromanage the whole country. By doing so he showed preference, to the professor, and he did not even wait to hear all the facts, before speaking. That was his second mistake.
Does this show a deep seated racism, I'm not sure, but it did show he is very sensitive to such matters, and he acted rashly. That is not a good thing as he is head of state
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Date: September 7th, 2009
Name: BOB
Subject: YOU SUCK!
Comment: HELLO IF YOU SEE VAN JONES ASK HIM WHAT IT FEELS LIKE TO BE GLENN BECK'S BITCH!
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Date: September 7th, 2009
Name: LukeTheDrifter
Subject: Radical, Not Radical
Comment: Of course Mr. Jones is a radical, not a radical.
His past remarks would be idiotic and hateful, regardless of who made them. Remember how stupid the birthers were?
Remember how horrible Trent Lott was?
Is it possible you seriously think nobody will notice what you're doing here? Are you out of your mind?
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Date: September 7th, 2009
Name: 2step
Subject: Uhm Excuse me
Comment: Self proclaimed communists have no business in the American government period.
I'm glad that Jones resigned, and I hope there is a way to get all the czars to resign since the American people do not have control over them like they do elected leaders.
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Date: September 7th, 2009
Name: mrs bongombe
Subject: Mark of a true professional
Comment: I commend you for publishing such opposing comments to your news editorial. This is a mark of a true professional who respects enough his readers and their views even when those views are not only so blatanly contrary to his own but some appear to mock and insult.
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Date: September 7th, 2009
Name: jerry
Subject: racism, Van Jones and YOU
Comment: Its clear from your derision to these comenters that you are actually the racists. It's clear that any thoughtful rebuttal of your Van Jones whitewash is greeted with editors notes like OK Massah and the like. If anything, Black folks like you are the wedge drivers and I think you know it and I also think that is exactly what you want. I could care less what color Barack's skin is. I'd vote for a purple person with three legs if they would lead this country conservatively.
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Date: September 7th, 2009
Name: By Kevin Morin
Subject: You're A Marxist
Comment: Dear Sir,
Your article is symptomatic of why your fellow African heritage peoples, for the most part, do not succeed in these United States.
Instead of celebrating what is by your own continued presence and life's span spent here- the best place to live in the world- you and your community overwhelmingly prefer to whine rather than work. There's always an excuse that is based on your inferiority in the eyes of others, which you assign to them, and never the fault of the African person who may not measure up!
I think that is called "playing the race card."
You write: "So we see the Witch hunt escalating. This is just the beginning. Van Jones, the White House environmental adviser resigned last night following a smear campaign launched by Glenn Beck and other Republicans."
Not one place do you quote a smear- when someone alleges an event its usually considered credible to show the event happening; don't you think? You refer to "dug up" acts and history and other FACTS, and you refer to 'incidents' and other actions but you don't show one place where there was any smear?? What about the word 'smear' don't you understand?
You write: "Jones, who is Black, was criticized as a "radical" whose views are out of the mainstream."
What is a "radical" and how does Mr. Jones compare to that definition? You might have tried that line of reasoning, but it may well have ended in an explanation that you didn't want.
You write: "The Republicans dug up various incidents from Jones' background; that he once headed an organization that fought police brutality; that he was one of the demonstrators who protested the police brutalization of Rodney King; that he once described himself as a socialist; that he criticized white owned companies for dumping toxic waste in African American neighborhoods; and that he signed a petition which questioned whether the government's laxity allowed the 9/11 tragedy to occur."
Your categoric misrepresentation in this paragraph consists of Marxist inspired re-statement of fact- of which you are well aware or you would have provided an actual accounting of the material and links! Murder would only be "involuntarily curtailing others' life functions" and theft would only be described as "spreading the wealth around" by your method of describing for others the revelations shown about Mr. Jones' past!
Creative; but it relies on the inherit ignorance of your target audience and reveals a level of contempt for your own "people" that is truly informative.
You write: "Jones is a brilliant graduate of Yale and is respected globally as an expert on 'green' jobs and the environment."
Even you put quotes around this bozo's so-called expertise!!
You write: "So, without giving Jones the opportunity to address or rebut any of his attackers, cyber terrorists started spreading the allegations over the Internet and over hate-broadcast news shows such as Glenn Beck's."
At what point did any conservative find himself/herself provided with a forum implied by your "opportunity to address or rebut" ?
And your silly conflation of cyber and terrorist into a term you hope will describe someone who played a video of another person is so typical of you slimy Leftie whiners. What terror is caused by free speech? If by your attempt we are to infer that telling someone of the acts of another is terrorism them the new media as a whole and " Black Star News" is then, by your own definition and inference; a terrorist organization -right? Wouldn't that make you a terrorist by your own declaration?
You write: "Glenn Beck is the same verbal terrorist who, on national television, lost his mind a few weeks ago and accused President Obama --whose mother was White and was raised by White grandparents-- of being a 'racist' who was against 'the White culture.'"
Barrack Obama has made many racially insensitive remarks, among them [notice how I'm actually giving an example to illustrate instead of merely alleging?] the one about the woman you refer: he called her a "typical white woman". What if I call him a "typical Black man"- will you call that a racist remark?
So to conclude- I think Barack Obama has made Glenn Beck's point for him- Beck was just observing the facts said by the man- how do you find that terrorizing?
Are you one of those easily frightened people who don't leave their house much? Terrorists, terrorism and terror is a state of fear and fright brought on by physical violence, in case your link to the Dictionary.com isn't as agile as we might hope. So how is speech equal terror again? Because, by definition, your use of the word is not only ignorant; its embarrassing.
You write: "Several major corporate advertisers withdrew their ads from Glenn Beck's show; in retaliation, he went after Van Jones."
Now your Marxist Malarky kicks into high gear! Your readers must not know that Mr. Jones' socialist/communist organization that he still controls, obviously, called for that boycott of Beck.
Of course you know that, so do I and the rest of the world know that. This was Mr. Jones' political attempt at censorship by causing the boycott over political opinion.
You write: "There will be more of this type of witch hunt. Republicans will go through the trash cans of all Presidential appointees, dig whatever may appear objectionable, when not placed in context, and spread the information over the hate-broadcast waves presided over by Glenn Beck and Rush
Limbaugh."
We all know where this type of behavior began don't we? Good 'ole Ted the Swimmer who drowned a girl and got a pass! Yep 'Teddy', began to degrade Judge Bork and now you want to whine, again, about the lack of civility?
You democrats/libbie/leftie whiners liked to publish false reports of George Bush fiddling with the Texas National Guard based solely, wholly and totally and completely fabricated documents- that fact requires you to understand digital type setting, kerning, fonts' history and other facts of the digital age that I'll accept you won't bother to take time to learn- but now when the actual truth and even videos are shown of someone's statement(s): its a 'witch hunt'?
At least if you lefties had something to say that wasn't so silly- wouldn't you think that would attract more people to your 'ideas'?
You write: "We have already seen how these hate-broadcast terrorists, who are ironically paid tens of millions of dollars and have medical coverage, have distorted the healthcare reform debate."
Here you go again, don't you have even the slightest readership that require some intellectual integrity? What is 'hateful' about disagreeing with someone's end of the political spectrum? That means your statement is pure 'hate' which you seem to decry but indulge.
If these people are "hate-broadcast terrorists" [another of your attempts at colorful images by conflating disparate words] then what word(s) have they said that is 'hateful'? Do you know the concept of quotes? It's what was used to expose, not smear, Mr. Jones. They are paid because many more millions listen to them and want to listen to them.
If you don't, want to listen start your own. Wait, you already have and you folks don't even listen to that! Hows the ad base for Black Star News?
What distortion do you allege- does the reader just take you by faith? Are you some all knowing being whose every utterance is fact? If there were distortions, where were they? Who said what and when? I've read the bill and can't find anything in it that I would like to happen, and anyone who opposes that bill or any like it are OK and find by me. Don't you ever engage in logical arguments?
You write: "We saw how they maligned the president's plan to address the nation's students and urge them to work hard in school, by labeling it as "political brainwashing."
The parents of thousands of children in the government schools raised an uproar because this socialist, Barack Obama, was going to address their kids- they've just gotten exposed to his take over of the economy and they're out of jobs because of his policies- and they're concerned he's behaving more like Hugo
Chavez every day!
Why don't you take it up with them? How does 'they' cover Glenn Beck or other conservative broadcasters? Do most TV and Radio personalities call you for approval of their on-Air content? Just curious because of your irrational conflation of these events.
You write: "Ironically, if this country were to judge everyone by their past actions and utterances alone, Glenn Beck wouldn't even have a show; this goes for Limbaugh as well."
You add: "Glenn Beck refers to himself as a 'recovering alcoholic and drug addict'; it's unclear whether this means it's all in the past. People in the communities where Van Jones grew up don't ever get that luxury; they're sent up the river. Glenn Beck also has a diagnosis of Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder; it's possible that this might contribute to such erratic behavior as accusing a man with a White mother and White grandparents of being a 'racist.' Only in Glenn Beck's perverted mind; of whatever part of it that is still functional. Make no mistake, these hate-broadcast terrorists want to undo the results of the 2008 election. They will oppose the president on everything he does; not out of principle or the national interest, but simply because they hate the fact that the base for their narrow partisan views continue to shrink.
When Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaugh are leaders of the opposition, you know the Republican party, and the country is in serious trouble. God Protect America."
Yes! We agree, [pray] "God Protect America", but I don't think that word means the same to both of us.
I want the original America back one without any income taxes so I can't be bled at the point of gun to feed you, and the Legislature of my State would elect our Senators instead of having a unicameral house with different terms of service as we have now.
Hey, a recent quote by a leftie-libbie said " I think spreading the wealth around is a good thing." Even you may have heard about it? What wealth I have is earned by my skills, and my hourly effort to trade my God given time of life for a wage. What's hard to understand about that?
The huge irony, lost on you libbies -well perhaps not- is that taxing me to feed you is the very slavery you claim to despise! By using the Police Powers of the State to collect taxes from those who trade their day for a wage- you effectively enslave those honest enough to work.
In closing, and as reference, one of our family's finest employees, and one of the most talented young men in our business is a Black man. He doesn't whine, snivel or pull your 'victim' routine - if he's wrong he gets corrected, like the whole crew, and improves and he is a very reliable man.
Editor's Note: Maybe one day he'll get to own the business and you'll work for him?
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Date: September 7th, 2009
Name: By Ludovic Blain
Subject: Where Were The Major White Liberal Organizations?
Comment: I've been disappointed by White liberals and progressives' unwillingness and
incompetence combating racism for 20 years. The inaction of large green
groups on Van Jones resignation is yet another example.
The NAACP, Equal Justice Society and Color of Change explicitly supported
Van Jones before his resignation. On the white side, Treehugger, Grist and a
few other small white organizations did. But the Sierra Club, Environmental
Defense Fund, Greenpeace, and NRDC, who together must represent more than
$100 million of mostly liberal and progressive foundations, big donors, and
individual contributors money, were MIA.
These groups either took a dive because the attacks on Van were racist, or they incompetently let the right set the terms of debate before entering. Either way America deserves better greens.
UPDATE: On Sunday, Carl Pope of the Sierra Club, Justin Rubin of Moveon,
Andy Stern of SEIU, and John Podesta gave mea culpa responses, with Carl and
Justin actually mentioning the racism of Van's political lynching. I must
say that Caucasian time makes bad politics.
Here's today's Color Line Question: are there organized White liberals that
can be trusted to maintain their commitment to their issue when the Right
attacks with racist wedges?
I appreciate White fellow travelers, like Tim Wise, and small White anti-racist organizations like Jews for Racial and Economic Justice, on the racial justice path. But they seem to have no influence on larger White groups like the Sierra Club, NOW, Common Cause, Moveon, and other staples of the White left. To be clear, I'm not discussing whether White groups will take on issues of people of color, as I'm setting the bar much lower--can organized White liberals keep their eye on THEIR prize when the Right's racism comes a calling?
It's been easy for progressives to attack President Obama for not defending
Van--but do they really expect Obama to be out in front of the White left?
It seems hypocritical to attack the White House for being spineless without
attacking NRDC, Sierra Club, EDF and Greeenpeace for being spineless as
well.
Let's remember--the most radical thing said by any national figure about
racism in the recent past was Obama saying the White cop "acted stupidly." The
Left certainly didn't counter the Right's racist framing of Obama's articulation of a racist incident.
In addition to this situation, in my political lifetime people of color have
been let down by White national liberal organizations on mid-1990s welfare
deform by White feminist groups, on Prop 8 by White gay groups who blamed
Black voters for it's passage, by White communications organizations on any
number of issues including California propositions 187 (anti-affirmative
action) and 209 (anti--immigrant), and many other times.
Although some examples are from a decade ago, I see no indication that White liberals are any better on racism now.
Although Whites will be a minority by around 2050, America has to survive
that long. If White progressives either can't or won't oppose racism, then
we'll need a new set of White progressive funders and leaders to do
something better. And if White liberals continue to be unable or unwilling
to challenge the Right's racist attacks then we are truly on the path to
fascism.
If White liberals ultimately fail to oppose racism we have a bigger disaster
on our hands than climate change, because America's commitment to White
supremacy, if left unchallenged, will prevent us from dealing with the other
important issues of the day, like climate change. As long as White liberals
think these are parallel, rather than continuous tracks, they will continue
to fail miserably.
And the world and its humans of all races can't take too many more failures.
Or, more accurately, the world and all its races can't take many more White
failures.
And now that the SEIU, Moveon, the Sierra Club, and CAP have given mea
culpas, maybe they can gather their White beltway org peers to make plans to
never again be silent during a political lynching.
And their funders should pay attention-if White groups can't combat Rightwing nut racist attacks, they certainly aren't good investments because they'll lose every time.
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Date: September 6th, 2009
Name: By K. Roussin
Subject: I Can't Support You Or Van Jones!
Comment: Dear Black Star News:
Van Jones is a complete communist, racist, and nut case. How in the world can you look at his record of activities and verbal comments that are ON THE RECORD and support him in ANY way? You have lost your way and are letting RACE guide your support of Van Jones. Sorry, but I will not support you in any way.
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Date: September 6th, 2009
Name: Smitty
Subject: Van Jones
Comment: Black Star News should change its name to Black Hole News; the truth gets sucked in and cannot escape.
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Date: September 6th, 2009
Name: Dave Vascek
Subject: Van Jones
Comment: Go ahead, keep shooting the messenger. Van Jones was undone by his words and actions. Beck just made us aware of them. This guy has no business in any part of the Administration. The Obama Administration just got another black eye, which could have been avoided if they had been paying attention to facts and details. Unfortunately for them they haven't and they don't.
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Date: September 6th, 2009
Name: Catherine
Subject: Van Jones
Comment: I have to say that I've enjoyed reading all of the Editor's Comments to some of the posts here. I'm trying to figure out, though, if they were written by a 7th or 8th grader. Anyone else care to take a stab at it?
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Date: September 6th, 2009
Name: sunklhammer
Subject: VJ
Comment: Jones undid himself with his big, racist, hate-filled mouth. There wasn't one damn thing that Beck and Fox said about Jones that wasn't true....and documented.
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Date: September 6th, 2009
Name: Mr. Jay
Subject: Hooray!
Comment: Cockroaches scatter when you turn on the light. Beck turned on the light and Jones ran like hell. America will get into a shooting
war before we submit to socialism or marxism.
What you need to figure out is that the problem with Black culture is that you choose to be enslaved by yourselves. You who are born in America have EVERY opportunity to exploit the SAME opportunities and resources that any white man has available to him. The formula for success is simple
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Date: September 6th, 2009
Name: unclebryan
Subject: Funniest article EVAH!
Comment: This is the funniest article I've ever read in my life! I never knew such a humor site existed on the intarwebs. I think I just broke a rib laughing!
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Date: September 6th, 2009
Name: Lance
Subject: Van Jones
Comment: Your article on the 'victimization' of Van Jones made me laugh.
I think Van is a victim of youtube Keep up your writing though, maybe someone will buy it
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Date: September 6th, 2009
Name: Wade
Subject: Van Jones- Victim of Hate-broadcast terrorism
Comment: What are you smoking up there? This was no witch hunt - it was the truth! By Jones' own admission, caught on video! Spin it how you want, but your brother got stone cold busted. Why didn't Jones respond to these allegations? Oh, thats right, he did. He said he was sorry if he offended anyone. His response to his signature on a petition insinuating gov't involvement in 9/11? He said that doesn't reflect his views NOW, or ever. Let the now slip out & had to follow up with never.
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Date: September 6th, 2009
Name: Joe
Subject: Jones is not innocent and smeared
Comment: Jones in his own words with Mumia. That tells me all I need to know.
http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2009/09/unreal-van-jones-even-released-war.html
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Date: September 6th, 2009
Name: C.Martel
Subject: Jones - hoist by his own petard
Comment: Mr. Jones earned a BA and worked for a few newspapers, then enrolled at Yale Law School. Since graduation, he got involved with Standing Together to Organize a Revolutionary Movement (STORM), a group explicitly committed to revolutionary Marxist politics whose points of unity were revolutionary democracy, revolutionary feminism, revolutionary internationalism, the central role of the working class, urban Marxism, and Third World Communism.
His own words did him in, no conspiracy necessary.
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Date: September 6th, 2009
Name: Nexmije
Subject: karma
Comment: So an organization that Van supported/may have been involved in tried to destroy Glenn Beck and it backfired. All I see is a lot of whining by someone who didn't think his strategy through very well. If he can't strategize at that level and then can only whine about something he helped bring on it's best that he's no longer in a position of power.
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Date: September 6th, 2009
Name: Tom Grace
Subject: Pile o Crap
Comment: What a pile o crap. Van Jones was and is a left wing radical whose own words and actions condemned him, once they became widely known. As if the Obama administration didn't know who and what this nutcase was before they appointed him a Czar. He had all the opportunity in the world to defend himself, but in fact apologized twice in two days to try to keep his job. He then resigned of his own accord. Defending this radical does more harm to President Obama and his administration
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Date: September 6th, 2009
Name: Gus
Subject: Jones
Comment: All the right wing press did was tell the truth about this radical. The main stream media never mentioned this guy until he resigned. What does that tell you?
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Date: September 6th, 2009
Name: American
Subject: Van Jones
Comment: It's not because he's Black. It's because he's a COMMUNIST! Put away the race card.
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Date: September 6th, 2009
Name: Patriot Czar
Subject: Dude - Get Your Facts From Somewhere Else...
Comment: Milton, your reporting is pathetic. Get the facts - Try the Truth next time.
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Date: September 6th, 2009
Name: Squidly Von Trump
Subject: Van Jones
Comment: Actually, it's not really fair to say the Republicans dug up anything about Jones. I mean, it's all on Youtube. So, in reality, the most you can say is, they googled Van Jones
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Date: September 6th, 2009
Name: Phil
Subject: Van Jones
Comment: If Van Jones is the the man you say he is why then did the president dump him? Save the martyr talk about distractions from the president's agenda. If the president wanted to stick by him he could have. Van Jones was a truther which is a damn sight more idiotic than the birthers.
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Date: September 6th, 2009
Name: Lazlo
Subject: Silliness
Comment: The Editor's Note comments are laughable - all ad hominem, no reason. Van Jones is a nut case. The Obama administration showed (i) extremely bad judgment in hiring him and (ii) spinelessness in either not supporting him with reasons why it hired him notwithstanding his obvious problems OR in forcing him to resign and trying to hide it in late night on a 3 day weekend. Like or dislike the administration, neither of these are admirable or useful traits in any administration and this is one.
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Date: September 6th, 2009
Name: CS
Subject: Sauce for the Goose
Comment: If Glenn Beck is a terrorist, what does that make John Stewart, Michael Moore, Keith Olbermann, and the rest of the news-entertainment complex which labored for years to discredit, demean, and destroy the Bush Administration?
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Date: September 6th, 2009
Name: Tex Geoas
Subject: Van Jones
Comment: By his own words... by his own words Van Jones forfeited his job.
Note to BSN: Race-baiting and victim politics DOESN'T WORK any more.
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Date: September 6th, 2009
Name: R. Shouse
Subject: van jones
Comment: Ha! Sucks to be you guys! Commies going down all over the place!
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Date: September 6th, 2009
Name: Richard Baker
Subject: Resignation
Comment: He was destroyed because his own words brought him down. Now black folk will say the white motherfuckers did him in. HE did himself in. Grow up, ya'll.
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Date: September 6th, 2009
Name: Nick DaBlade
Subject: Van aka Anthony Jones
Comment: Conservatives turned the spotlight of truth on the covert Communist (his own admission by the way) and just like all cockroaches, he was forced to retreat back under the refrigerator...........The Republican party has no power in Washington, Mr. Jones resigned probably due to the influence of Mr. Immanuel........Your Black Messiah will be a one-term wonder just like Jimmy Carter but it won't be due to the Republicans, your moderate Democrats have already seen thru his thin veneer and are chomping
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Date: September 6th, 2009
Name: Midge
Subject: Proof
Comment: The only problem with the rebuttal in this article is that it's the rebuttal that is based on half-truths. This article says that Jones had no opportunity to face or rebut his attackers...but his real attacker was himself, caught on video tape in numerous venues, spouting off Revolutionary claptrap and promoting class warefare at every turn - economic and racial. He is ridiculous at best, deserving of at most only enough authority to catch stray dogs and cats in a small municipality
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Date: September 6th, 2009
Name: robert erikson
Subject: Van Jones
Comment: Sooner or later, even Black people will have to begin to take responsibility for themselves and their own actions. Jones is a stone psychopath who hides behind is skin color--and you let him. If Blacks ever want to earn respect on their own merits instead of race-baiting it out of people, crap like Van Jones has to go over the side with the rest of the swill.
Cheers.
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Date: September 6th, 2009
Name: Chris
Subject: Go look.
Comment: Van Jones in his OWN words....
JONES: We're really entering a third wave of environmentalism in the United States. The white polluters and the white environmentalists are essentially steering poison into the people of color communities.
JONES: This movement is deeper than a solar panel! Deeper than a solar panel! Don't stop there! Don't stop there! We're gonna change the whole system! We're gonna change the whole thing. We want a new system. We want a new system!
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Date: September 6th, 2009
Name: A.P. Alford
Subject: Van Jones
Comment: Typical Race baiting trash talk by a Communist Supporter. When the truth is inconvenient, attack the messenger, demean and insult instead of argue facts. Obama's days are numbered; the American people see him for what he is now. He's a racist, treasonous usurpor. He, at the very least should be prosecuted for treason against the Constitution he swore an oath to uphold and defend.
Editor's Note: You're exactly the type we'd expect to listen to Glenn Beck and the "birthers" and the "tea party" types
The "Oh, give me back my good 'ole America of the 1950s when we could put 'em where they belong" -type.
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Date: September 6th, 2009
Name: John Fairchild
Subject: A correction
Comment: You said: he signed a petition which questioned whether the government's laxity allowed the 9/11 tragedy to occur. No, he signed a petition demanding the government be investigated for directly causing 9/11 as a pretext for war. You may think Glenn Beck has the power to cause Whitehouse advisors to resign for specious reasons but if Jones hadn't done things that embarassed the President he would still be on staff.
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Date: September 6th, 2009
Name: Jake
Subject: Lights Out For Van Jones
Comment: In addition to his other well publicized unsavory activities, Van Jones has a past as a record producer. That's right; his civil rights group, the Ella Baker Center, produced a handful of CDs between 2002 and 2006. One of them, which appears to have been made around 2002, starred convicted murderer Mumia Abu-Jamal, who presumably recorded his portions of the album in prison.
The CD consists of mindless anti-Americanism of the usual pedestrian sort.
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Date: September 6th, 2009
Name: Reis
Subject: Van Jones
Comment: Your coverage of Obama's firing of Van Jones sets a new low in prejudiced reporting. You have tailored everything Jones did to make it sound as if he is a decent American who has been abused by - of all people and places - the Obama Whitehouse . . . Glenn Beck did point out Van Jones' written record - a record which should have kept him out of the Whitehouse or any other position of trust in the U.S. government. Shame on him, shame on you, and shame on Obama for trying to sneak this one
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Date: September 6th, 2009
Name: ALEX
Subject: your brilliant analysis
Comment: If good o'l Van is really a stand up guy, the kind of czar we need more of, then why did he resign? Why didn't he stick it out and fight his critics on the issues? If you were honest with yourself for 1 minute you would admit that the reason is that as more Americans got to watch o'l Van on UTUBE the more clear Obama's radical agenda would become. That's why o'l Van got the word to jump under the bus now.
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Date: September 6th, 2009
Name: j robinson
Subject: blindness
Comment: I feel sorry that you are so consumed with race to see what is before your eyes. Van Jones was a radical - and had virtually zero to do with green anything, and more to do with the Tides project and the Apollo project. He would've been a target of the right whether he was white, black, yellow, red, or purple. The fact that he was a marxist/socialist/black liberation theologian/radical-type had everything to do it... and that's why you can't bring yourself to recognize that.
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Date: September 6th, 2009
Name: Tom Yaz
Subject: Van Jones
Comment: Hey Milty;
Nice try in your attempt to whitewash Jones past:
That "he was one of the demonstrators who protested the police brutalization of Rodney King." Uh no, he was arrested for RIOTING during the Rodney King Affair.
That he once "described himself as a socialist." Uh no, he described himself as a COMMUNIST.
Such trash should not be in the Whitehouse.
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Date: September 6th, 2009
Name: john
Subject: So who said what?
Comment: It seems to me that Glenn Beck didn't say the US was behind the twin towers, nor that he was a communist. It seems that Van Jones done himself in with his radical views and life. God bless the USA
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Date: September 6th, 2009
Name: Herb Calhoun
Subject: Van Jones Resignation
Comment: Any White House adviser should be carefully screened before appointment at the expense of the taxpayer. If taxpayer dollars are used to pay them than their political views and ideaology should be carefully scrutinized. It's like a job interview with the American people. Everybody knows we hate socialism and communism. Van Horn runs his mouth and reveals himself and has awoken the 'Sleeping Giant'....the majority of the nation's silent Conversatives, myself included. They are awake now!
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Date: September 6th, 2009
Name: T.N. HUNTER
Subject: Commie/Marxist/radical/ hate monger VAN JONES
Comment: WHEN VAN JONES/MARK LLOYD AND OBAMA ARE LEADERS OF THE OPPOSITION,YOU KNOW THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY,AND THE COUNTRY IS IN SERIOUS TROUBLE!!!!!
Like you say we're speaking the truth to empower!
Editor's Note: Rush Limbaugh for President and Glenn Beck for VP. God save America
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Date: September 6th, 2009
Name: Tom Downing
Subject: Van Jones
Comment: Mr. Jones was caught in his own web of LIES. He was exposed, and was forced to leave his nice cushy job because he had a big mouth. Obama should make sure to vet the people he is hiring, and not take on radicals, Socialists, Truthers, Holocaust deniers, and other assorted flaming fruitcakes.
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Date: September 6th, 2009
Name: Peter
Subject: Van Jones
Comment: Conservatives see through your race baiting news. You do Blacks a disservice to howl race when this is clearly an ideological issue. Right Wing vs. Left Wing. Nothing more. MLK fought to have Blacks included in the political discussions and now that you're here you whine like children when you can't get your way. Grow up Black America.
Editor's Note: Okay, Massah
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