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Date: December 28th, 2008
Name: Greg
Subject: The point..
Comment: Outrage over Rick Warren has nothing to do with race, no matter how much you try to spin otherwise. Closeted racism towards Blacks over the passage of California's Proposition 8?? You've got to be kidding me.
The right thing to do - think Deval Patrick. Yes, he happens to be the African-American governor of Massachusetts, but that isn't the point. He's a principled politician who adopted the right position. And that's the point Jasmyne.
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Date: December 26th, 2008
Name: Judith
Subject: Jasmine Connick and Her Sorry Editorial on Warren
Comment: You continue the divisiveness/rancor between different groups with this kind of editorial. Barack Obaama is our president elect and he should have whomever he wishes do the invocation at his inauguration. A though I do agree with you that Jeremiah Wright might have been a better choice, Warren is absolutely the WRONG choice. Happily, his input is JUST an invocation; not policy setting. Having said that, I think Obama would be even more inclusive if there were a representative of each religion
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Date: December 25th, 2008
Name: Ed
Subject: Jasmyne A. Cannick - On Obama: Gay Activists Should Keep Quiet
Comment: Just what we need, a liberal version of Ann Coulter!
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Date: December 25th, 2008
Name: J. Aloysius Cabot-Lodge III (Trip)
Subject: Huh?
Comment: Gracious! You elect one negro President and the all get so uppity. If I'd known, I'd never have voted for Barry in the first place. Live and learn, I guess.
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Date: December 24th, 2008
Name: Paula K
Subject: Let him speak
Comment: I am of the GLBTcommunity and I served in the US military.
In order to serve I had to swear an oath to defend the constitution.
I am a total supporter of free speach and the freedom to assemble.
Let Rick Warren speak and allow his dissentors to be there and boo him.
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Date: December 23rd, 2008
Name: john
Subject: Rick Warren
Comment: Of course we are horrified by the murder of 3 gay men in New Orleans!! However, your pointing at supposed apathy toward that outrage doesn't excuse Obama's bad judgement. Also, I feel you've misrepresented Warren as mainly anti-gay marriage. Yes, he against gay marriage, AND he is also anti-gay period. Just because Obama is better on race and sexual-minority issues than Bush doesn't mean he should get a pass on picking homophobe to give his Invocation.
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Date: December 23rd, 2008
Name: Pauline Park
Subject: Jasmine Cannick's hypocrisy
Comment: Cannick's 'take' on the Warren controversy is as hypocritical as it is typical of her bad identity politics, as expressed in her controversial attack on undocumented Latino immigrants published by the Advocate back in April 2006:
http://www.advocate.com/exclusive_detail_ektid28908.asp
Funny how she can write in that piece that Lesbians and gays should not be second-class citizens and yet denounce LGBT activists for criticizing the choice of Rick Warren to do the invocation at the
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Date: December 23rd, 2008
Name: Mary
Subject: Obama pals around with bigots
Comment: This so -called commetary is ridiculous. Obama is not a King and if he makes poor decisions, as he did with Warren, people of conscience have a right and an obligation to call him out. He's not even in office yet, and he's already made a serious blunder.
As for Prop 8, the California Supreme Court will probably overturn it because there are no blacks on the Court. It's just White, Latino and Asian.
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Date: December 22nd, 2008
Name: Vanessa Edwards Foster
Subject: Obama's decision is his own, NOT the gay/lesbian establishment's!
Comment: Thank you for the commentary! The more time goes on, the more I'm seeing the same things happen to POC in GLBT and the trans community overall. We're getting obliterated out of our own movement and our own right to have rights!
I've had enough of the comments and backbiting from those because I refused to support Hillary and pushed for Obama! And it's delicious hypocrisy to see these same politically mature leaders show their shrill and immature side to those of us in the trans community....
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Date: December 22nd, 2008
Name: Average LosAngeleno
Subject: Jasmyne Cannick
Comment: Honey, you've had your 15 minutes with your last controversial piece. Get some new material and move on already...
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Date: December 22nd, 2008
Name: MJ
Subject: Wow
Comment: This editorial is the most idiotic piece of trash I have ever read. I don't even know how to really respond to the author because I truly feel she just doesn't get it ... it's pathetic actually. To be both black and homosxual and still be stupid enough to make degrading remarks like this about one race. You really need to grow up a little and educate yourself. Pathetic Jasmyne, just pathetic.
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Date: December 22nd, 2008
Name: episteme
Subject: um
Comment: Jasmyne-
I read your blog occasionally, and usually agree with you. And I would welcome Rev. Wright give Obama's invocations. I can certainly overlook a religious person's opposition to same sex marriage, but the rift with Warren goes much further. Warren is not just opposed to marriage equality like Obama, he is proactively involved in removing that right and denying it to others. What's more, Warren has spewed anti-gay and antisemitic speech, and is a proponent of reparative therapy.
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Date: December 22nd, 2008
Name: Big Mamma
Subject: Uncle Tomboy!
Comment: We're not going to lie passively in the middle of the road and wait for Obama to run us over with his big, opposing viewpoints bus again. Not anymore. So get over yourself, Uncle Tomboy! Your flimsy rhetoric is not going to coax this ugly-ass genie back into its bottle.
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Date: December 22nd, 2008
Name: Adam Ross
Subject: Give me a break!
Comment: Honey, you have got to be kidding me telling us gays and lesbians just to shut the fuck up already. I don't care if what you said is politically incorrect or not, but your arguments that black people have had it worse than gays is not the way to build civil rights for all. And, regardless if Obama is anti gay-marriage, he has invited a pastor who actively worked to take away the right to marry for members of the GBLT community in the State of California.
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Date: December 22nd, 2008
Name: ghostwhitehorse
Subject: :eyeroll:
Comment: While his (Warren's) deeep involvement in Yes on Prop. 8 functioned as a flashpoint for the LGBTQ's anger it is hardly the only reason for objecting to the choice. Being compaired to dogf***ers and childrapists (to use two examples he gives) gets be quite. . .infuriating. Warrens insistance that I (and fellow LGBTQ's) have a disorder and that it can be prayed away is . . .infuriating. Mine as well try to pray away back hair. . .I fairly sure you get torqued off by the black women as horney
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Date: December 22nd, 2008
Name: Cal
Subject: You think you know, but you dont
Comment: Wow. What a bigot. We got our black president so gay people can go to hell. pretty much sums up this article. You have no idea how much this white gay person has done to support the black community including hopping on a plane and leaving a family gathering because the N word was used a second time at the dinner table. But I guess your right now. A black man is president and blacks have shown they are the biggest bigots of all. I sure hope I dont hear any more whining about racism from black folk
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Date: December 22nd, 2008
Name: Meinert
Subject: Nuts
Comment: Jasmyne -
There is nothing worse than an op-ed based on a straw- man. The whole premise of your article that gays are upset about Warren simply because he opposes gay marriage is off on two counts.
First, it is not just the LGBT community that is upset. I am straight, and everyone I know that worked for Obama is upset by this move, and most of these people are straight. Second, people are upset by Warren, not so much because he opposes same sex marriage, but because he has compared it to pedophilia
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Date: December 22nd, 2008
Name: Felix T
Subject: Silence = Death
Comment: So, your bottom line is that gays and lesbians should shut up and step to the back of the bus? Uncle Tom, meet Jasmyne Cannick – she is your kind of gal!
Tom, among the things Jasmyne believes is that gay people should be grateful that Barak Obama has made a place at the table (to use her metaphor) for a hateful bigot like Rick Warren. Indeed, not just a place – put he has given him a place of high honor! I can’t wait for Obama’s next act of post-partisan healing –
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Date: December 22nd, 2008
Name: Hensley Roberts
Subject: Rick Warren
Comment: Perhaps if Rick Warren had stated in the past that blacks and whites shouldn't marry, claiming that God had not inteneded the races to mix, Obama would understand how gay people feel. I doubt he would include this evangelical pastor in the official start to his presidency if Warren's ignorance and hate were direced to race instead of sexual orientation.
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Date: December 22nd, 2008
Name: Jennifer
Subject: Ignorant
Comment: President-elect Barack Obama isn't even in office yet and they are all up in arms over the inaugural invitation of evangelical pastor Rick Warren simply because Warren opposes gay marriage.
Simply? Really? Wow, that's ignorant. Actually Warren has compared same-sex marriage to incest and pedophilia. What if he had done that with inter-racial marriage in the 60s? hmmm, I doubt your reaction would be the same.
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Date: December 22nd, 2008
Name: Tom
Subject: Hypocrisy
Comment: You say that's reaching across the isle, but would you be saying the same thing if a White President-elect had invited David Duke who is an anti-semite and racist? I highly doubt it.
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Date: December 22nd, 2008
Name: mishi
Subject: Cripes, what's YOUR problem?
Comment: Y'know, it would be a lot easier to appreciate your analysis of what's going on if you'd cut out some of the sneering attitude and the race-baiting, and actually analyze what's going on, instead of acting like your skin gives you some sort of corner on moral virtue. Jeez, I'm sorry that, as a white gay man who notes that 70% of African Americans voted for 8 (which means over 75% of straight AAs), I don't flagellate myself thinking, oh, it's all MY fault. It's all my fault that straight
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Date: December 22nd, 2008
Name: Alyssa
Subject: Response
Comment: Criticizing the first Black president before he even takes the oath of office for doing something that white gays themselves haven't been able to do, bring everyone to the table, isn't going to win them any fans in the Black community.
First of all, it's not about criticizing the first Black president, it's about criticizing the president, something Americans have the right and the expectation of doing. Second, Obama is bringing someone to the table that wants to kick other people off the table
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Date: December 22nd, 2008
Name: Patrick M
Subject: Ugh - hate speech
Comment: So let me see if I get this straight:
- White gay leaders need to apologize to all African-Americans for racism because the rights of gay people of all races were taken away by Proposition 8
- Many whites consider Wright racist, so white gays probably do too
- Gay men were murdered and it didn't make the news because they weren't white
- White gay people should go away already
Wow could there be any group worse than white gay people on the face of the earth?
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Date: December 22nd, 2008
Name: BEAR A-M Rodgers
Subject: I hear my voice in your words
Comment: I did not vote for Obama, or Bush either. Had nothing to do with race or sexual orientation. But I will now be working for Pres Obama, to keep him safe and implement policy. I'm.....The white guy who lives in the 95% African-American neighborhood and feel safer here than uptown with the rich white folk.
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Date: December 22nd, 2008
Name: Nikki
Subject: Re:
Comment: That was the funniest article I've ever read. There's no possible way that that was intended to be taken as a real piece of journalism.
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On Obama: Gay Activists Should Keep Quiet |
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By Jasmyne A. Cannick
December 22nd, 2008
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Pastor Rick Warren shown with Obama; his invitation to the Inauguration has invited a swift backlash from gays |
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[Op-Ed: On The Gay Backlash]
At a time when gay leaders should be apologizing to and trying to build bridges with African-Americans after exposing their closeted racism towards Blacks over the passage of California's Proposition 8, the gays are at it again.
President-elect Barack Obama isn't even in office yet and they are all up in arms over the inaugural invitation of evangelical pastor Rick Warren simply because Warren opposes gay marriage.
Now me personally, I'd have much rather seen Dr. Jeremiah Wright tapped to give the invocation over Warren, but then I guess they'd have a problem with that too. Because while Wright is one of the few Black pastors on record supporting equal rights for lesbians and gays, most whites consider him a racist.
Instead of denouncing Obama's choice to invite Warren, gays should be hailing it, as it shows a continued effort on Obama's behalf to reach across the aisle in an effort to bring everyone to the table, the very thing that the gay leadership hasn't even made an effort to learn how do post Prop. 8.
You would think that after running a horrible campaign that was predicated on assumptions about how Blacks would vote that the gay leadership would have learned that preaching to the choir will get you about a far as West Hollywood.
Newsflash: Contrary to their belief, the world doesn't revolve around gay marriage. If it did, let's face it, Obama wouldn't be the President-elect, now would he?
It's no secret that Obama isn't exactly the poster child for gay marriage, and for the record, neither was Hillary Clinton. However, that didn't stop them from voting for her in the primary or me as a Black lesbian from voting for Obama. Add to that, we've had 8 years under an extremely anti-gay Administration and I don't recall all of this anger being directed towards our current President.
The inequalities that exist between people like me, a Black lesbian, and white gays, who believe that marriage will give them parity with their heterosexual counterparts, are crystal clear when you consider that last week three Black gay men were murdered in New Orleans.
While gays are protesting Warren, last week New Orleans police identified three Black men who were gunned down in a 7th Ward home. The men were apparently gay, one possibly transgender, and police "believe the three victims knew their killers."
The victims were all from Mississippi and living together in a home. They were identified as Felix Pearson, 19; Kenneth Monroe, 27; and Darriel Wilson, 20. News reports said that the men were found after the building manager "said he saw the lower half of a man's body through a window and called 911."
I know that Pearson, Monroe, and Wilson, aren't Matthew Shepard or Brandon Teena. however I'd think that in a post Prop. 8 world and in the spirit of reconciliation and being at the edge of each other's battles, the loss of life of three gay men, one of whom was possibly transgender, would be more important than some mega church pastor who doesn't want gays to be married attending President-elect Obama's inauguration.
I wonder if they had been three white boys would I even have to say this. Then there's the small issue of workers being laid off, families losing their homes in foreclosure, not to mention California's never ending budget crisis where cuts in public education and social services are imminent all services that are also utilized by minority gays who are as much affected by the current economy as their heterosexual counterparts.
Criticizing the first Black president before he even takes the oath of office for doing something that white gays themselves haven't been able to do, bring everyone to the table, isn't going to win them any fans in the Black community. Neither is reminding us that they voted for Obama as if they did us a favor when in fact, they did themselves one. And I'm sorry, there's no reward for that nor does Obama owe white gays for their support.
As politically incorrect as this is going sound, I feel it needs to be said. The white gay community needs to go somewhere and just STFU already and let Obama get into office.
Jasmyne Cannick is a critic and commentator based in Los Angeles who writes about the worlds of pop culture, race, class, sexuality, and politics as it relates to the African-American community. This article is Chapter Four in Jasmyne Cannick's ongoing series "A White Gay's Guide to Dealing With the Black Community for Dummies." She can be reached via www.jasmynecannick.com
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